Rachael Ray and her husband of practically 20 years have a “weird way” of offering a stability of their marriage.
Throughout the third episode of Ray’s new podcast, “I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead,” Ray invited visitor Jacques Pépin to debate the significance of marriage. Ray instructed the French chef that she and her husband, musician and lawyer John Cusimano, “brought something to each other.”
“You know, [John is] a lawyer and a musician,” Ray started. “I’m not a musician. I’m certainly no lawyer. I hate reading legal documents and official stuff, but we balance each other in a weird way. We allow each other to be open to different worlds.”
She added, “I also think it’s fun to be able to get out thoughts truthfully.”
Ray and Cusimano tied the knot in Italy in 2005 and renewed their vows in 2015 on the similar fort in Tuscany the place they mentioned, “I do.”
Throughout the podcast, Ray credited her husband for being an “essential” a part of her success.
“I love my husband, John, and John works with me and has built our business and our brand together, but we agreed in concept about service to community, service to the world, service to animals, to children,” Ray mentioned.
She continued, “It was very important to me that I marry him, because I thought this person could be a true partner in what I believe in and helping people and building not a business, but a community.”
This isn’t the primary time that Ray has spoken candidly about her marriage with Cusimano on her podcast, which debuted in October. The previous Meals Community star revealed just a few unconventional ideas and methods that assist maintain the connection going robust.
“I am very wildly, wildly, wildly lucky that I have my husband,” she mentioned on her podcast’s first episode. “But he understands I need my space. He needs his space.”
She additionally mentioned that she and Cusimano don’t consider in avoiding conflicts.
“It’s very hard, especially for hot-tempered or creative or vociferous, loud people to be able to just calm it down,” Ray instructed her visitor, Jenny Mollen.
“John and I don’t calm it down ever. We have now large screaming matches on a regular basis, however I feel that’s wholesome. I actually do. And I don’t belief individuals which might be too quiet.
“Too quiet freaks me out. I prefer that you tell me what you think when you think it, and let’s just get it all out there.”
Ray and Cusimano have a singular method of creating up after an argument, too.
“I don’t know that we ever apologize to each other,” the “30 Minute Meals” star mentioned. “Ultimately, I pat him on his a– or he kisses me on the top, and that’s simply kind of it. That’s the apology.
“It’s just sort of understood. ‘I still like your a–. I still like your head.’ It’s kind of in that zone.”